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14 years 11 months ago #9487
by cadaverlove
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Im thankful for not being a turkey on this day of gluttony
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14 years 11 months ago #9544
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Thankful for the chance to live, thankful for having people who love me, thankful for everything I have:)
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14 years 11 months ago #9560
by Envy
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cadaverlove wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what exactly happens on Thanksgiving Day? Is it just a day to be thankful and..Eat turkey together? Or is there some historical thing behind it/certain ceremonies done on the day?
My younger brother said something about Presidents forgiving and then eating turkeys and it had me quite confused as to the traditions and history of Thanksgiving Day. :dry:
Im thankful for not being a turkey on this day of gluttony
Can anyone explain to me what exactly happens on Thanksgiving Day? Is it just a day to be thankful and..Eat turkey together? Or is there some historical thing behind it/certain ceremonies done on the day?
My younger brother said something about Presidents forgiving and then eating turkeys and it had me quite confused as to the traditions and history of Thanksgiving Day. :dry:
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14 years 11 months ago #9584
by black_magnolia
To see a world in a Grain of Sand,
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.
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Envy wrote:
It's custom that the president spears one turkey from death every Thanksgiving. This years turkey by the name of Courage is going to live the rest of her days in Disneyland. (if I recall correctly the newspaper article)
Now to other rituals, no idea, we need a true American to answer this.
cadaverlove wrote:
Im thankful for not being a turkey on this day of gluttony
Can anyone explain to me what exactly happens on Thanksgiving Day? Is it just a day to be thankful and..Eat turkey together? Or is there some historical thing behind it/certain ceremonies done on the day?
My younger brother said something about Presidents forgiving and then eating turkeys and it had me quite confused as to the traditions and history of Thanksgiving Day. :dry:
It's custom that the president spears one turkey from death every Thanksgiving. This years turkey by the name of Courage is going to live the rest of her days in Disneyland. (if I recall correctly the newspaper article)
Now to other rituals, no idea, we need a true American to answer this.
To see a world in a Grain of Sand,
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.
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14 years 11 months ago #9589
by SkieShauphen
Meaning comes from within.
Replied by SkieShauphen on topic Re:Thanksgiving
Most of us associate the holiday with happy Pilgrims and Indians sitting down to a big feast. And that did happen - ONCE.
The story began in 1614 when a band of English explorers sailed home to England with a ship full of Patuxet Indians bound for slavery. They left behind smallpox which virtually wiped out those who had escaped. By the time the Pilgrims arrived in Massachusetts Bay they found only one living Patuxet Indian, a man named Squanto who had survived slavery in England and knew their language. He taught them to grow corn and to fish, and negotiated a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag Nation. At the end of their first year, the Pilgrims held a great feast honoring Squanto and the Wampanoags.
But as word spread in England about the paradise to be found in the new world, religious zealots called Puritans began arriving by the boat load. Finding no fences around the land, they considered it to be in the public domain. Joined by other British settlers, they seized land, capturing strong young Natives for slaves and killing the rest. But the Pequot Nation had not agreed to the peace treaty Squanto had negotiated and they fought back. The Pequot War was one of the bloodiest Indian wars ever fought.
In 1637 near present day Groton, Connecticut, over 700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe had gathered for their annual Green Corn Festival which is our Thanksgiving celebration. In the predawn hours the sleeping Indians were surrounded by English and Dutch mercenaries who ordered them to come outside. Those who came out were shot or clubbed to death while the terrified women and children who huddled inside the longhouse were burned alive. The next day the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared \"A Day Of Thanksgiving\" because 700 unarmed men, women and children had been murdered.
Cheered by their \"victory\", the brave colonists and their Indian allies attacked village after village. Women and children over 14 were sold into slavery while the rest were murdered. Boats loaded with a many as 500 slaves regularly left the ports of New England. Bounties were paid for Indian scalps to encourage as many deaths as possible.
Following an especially successful raid against the Pequot in what is now Stamford, Connecticut, the churches announced a second day of \"thanksgiving\" to celebrate victory over the heathen savages. During the feasting, the hacked off heads of Natives were kicked through the streets like soccer balls. Even the friendly Wampanoag did not escape the madness. Their chief was beheaded, and his head impaled on a pole in Plymouth, Massachusetts -- where it remained on display for 24 years.
The killings became more and more frenzied, with days of thanksgiving feasts being held after each successful massacre. George Washington finally suggested that only one day of Thanksgiving per year be set aside instead of celebrating each and every massacre. Later Abraham Lincoln decreed Thanksgiving Day to be a legal national holiday during the Civil War -- on the same day he ordered troops to march against the starving Sioux in Minnesota.
This story doesn't have quite the same fuzzy feelings associated with it as the one where the Indians and Pilgrims are all sitting down together at the big feast. But we need to learn our true history so it won't ever be repeated. Next Thanksgiving, when you gather with your loved ones to Thank God for all your blessings, think about those people who only wanted to live their lives and raise their families. They, also took time out to say \"thank you\" to Creator for all their blessings.
The story began in 1614 when a band of English explorers sailed home to England with a ship full of Patuxet Indians bound for slavery. They left behind smallpox which virtually wiped out those who had escaped. By the time the Pilgrims arrived in Massachusetts Bay they found only one living Patuxet Indian, a man named Squanto who had survived slavery in England and knew their language. He taught them to grow corn and to fish, and negotiated a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag Nation. At the end of their first year, the Pilgrims held a great feast honoring Squanto and the Wampanoags.
But as word spread in England about the paradise to be found in the new world, religious zealots called Puritans began arriving by the boat load. Finding no fences around the land, they considered it to be in the public domain. Joined by other British settlers, they seized land, capturing strong young Natives for slaves and killing the rest. But the Pequot Nation had not agreed to the peace treaty Squanto had negotiated and they fought back. The Pequot War was one of the bloodiest Indian wars ever fought.
In 1637 near present day Groton, Connecticut, over 700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe had gathered for their annual Green Corn Festival which is our Thanksgiving celebration. In the predawn hours the sleeping Indians were surrounded by English and Dutch mercenaries who ordered them to come outside. Those who came out were shot or clubbed to death while the terrified women and children who huddled inside the longhouse were burned alive. The next day the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared \"A Day Of Thanksgiving\" because 700 unarmed men, women and children had been murdered.
Cheered by their \"victory\", the brave colonists and their Indian allies attacked village after village. Women and children over 14 were sold into slavery while the rest were murdered. Boats loaded with a many as 500 slaves regularly left the ports of New England. Bounties were paid for Indian scalps to encourage as many deaths as possible.
Following an especially successful raid against the Pequot in what is now Stamford, Connecticut, the churches announced a second day of \"thanksgiving\" to celebrate victory over the heathen savages. During the feasting, the hacked off heads of Natives were kicked through the streets like soccer balls. Even the friendly Wampanoag did not escape the madness. Their chief was beheaded, and his head impaled on a pole in Plymouth, Massachusetts -- where it remained on display for 24 years.
The killings became more and more frenzied, with days of thanksgiving feasts being held after each successful massacre. George Washington finally suggested that only one day of Thanksgiving per year be set aside instead of celebrating each and every massacre. Later Abraham Lincoln decreed Thanksgiving Day to be a legal national holiday during the Civil War -- on the same day he ordered troops to march against the starving Sioux in Minnesota.
This story doesn't have quite the same fuzzy feelings associated with it as the one where the Indians and Pilgrims are all sitting down together at the big feast. But we need to learn our true history so it won't ever be repeated. Next Thanksgiving, when you gather with your loved ones to Thank God for all your blessings, think about those people who only wanted to live their lives and raise their families. They, also took time out to say \"thank you\" to Creator for all their blessings.
Meaning comes from within.
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14 years 11 months ago #9620
by Morgana
Replied by Morgana on topic Re:Thanksgiving
We have Thanksgiving Day in Canada as well, but it's earlier in the year... it's always the second Monday in October, so it was October 12 this year. It's more of a harvest-type festival in origin, but now it's really just a long weekend. Families usually gather together for a meal, which is traditionally a turkey dinner with stuffing, potatoes, vegetables, and either apple or pumpkin pie for dessert. Basically all the foods that are ready for harvest in mid-fall.
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