Is goth music more then just metal?

I note that many here listen metal

To you gothic music is just metal or is it something else?

I think that music of all type may be \"gothic\"- it all depends on what you mean by this word

Depends on the context of what gothic means....yea it can be Metal...or it could be a dark and looming symphonie (cant spell)...

I find that a lot of bands influence by folk music of whatever region can feel very gothic to me, whether they are metal or not. I like all kinds of music, from classical to metal to blues. Whatever makes me feel right at the time is good music to me.

I think Gothic music can be metal, but in a slightly different branch of metal, seeing as i listen to a lot of metal bands like slipknot and BFMV, that wouldn't neccessarily be called goth music by anyone i know. But there are lots of goth bands that i wouldn't really call metal mixed in with the thrash and other types of metal bands with slipknot etc. in my local music stores.

I think metal is rarely gothic but people think it is. Real gothic rock music is a darker brand of post-punk but I think the best type of gothic music that is still true to its original roots is the guitar driven sound of the Sisters of Mercy which is post-punky but influenced by metal. So gothic metal is this kind of sound but with emphasis on heaviness and the guitars rather than keyboards and synthesizers. For example with Type O Negative.

Most people think melodic death/black metal is gothic but it isn't; it doesn't have any connection to original gothic rock genre. But then some bands like Cradle of Filth are influenced by gothic metal because their lyrics can be like gothic literature (a la Edgar Allen Poe) but I'd say their sound is still rooted in death/black metal.

Then there are bands like Nightwish which in my opinion aren't gothic. Just because they include orchestral elements and keyboards and stuff doesn't mean they are gothic. Likewise with female-fronted metal. Although the tying of beauty (female vocals or keyboards) and brutality (heavy or extreme metal) could be seen as gothic... but not in my opinion.

Sorry for short essay and blunt manner, I just got in from college and I'm in a blunt mood...