What makes you goth?

I agree, Dark Romantic sounds better, and more accurately descriptive. The word \"Goth\" today has so many various interpretations that it doesn't really describe to modern culture very well. Dark Romantic, I like that, and it fits.

What make me Goth? This f***** society!


Mes hommages.

T.

Thanks for the info, raidohaglaz. That was a good description of how the word \"Goth\" has changed throughout the years.

And I agree with Dark Romantic as well... much more descriptive!

I also agree with raidohaglaz on the history of Goths.
Goths with a big G = Visigoths + Ostrogoths (it's with a capital letter because it's a name of a tribe); goths with a small g = members of the goth subculture. It's easy like that. Goths like we know them now, as a subculture (and yes, we are one, don't let your egos run lose) is fairly a new subculture with it's beginnings in the early 1980s.

true the current subculture is very new, but people who believe the sames as the Goths, Goth religion is from thousands of years ago, before christianity and even jewish religion.

but i do like Dark Romantic too, very..there.. if u get my meaning

Kyle87 wrote:

true the current subculture is very new, but people who believe the sames as the Goths, Goth religion is from thousands of years ago, before christianity and even jewish religion.

Ah, you are talking about paganism.
Heathenry is a little out of the way of the goth subculture. True, there are a lot of goths interested in the occult and obscure religions and rituals, but calling them one and the same is not correct. To begin with, there are enough goths (sans capital G, thank you, Black Magnolia) who aren't pagan, but rather Christian, Jewish, agnostic, atheïst and the list goes on. Also, numerous pagans are not goth.
Also, the Jews are probably a bit older then the Goths, so their religion probably is too. Maybe not like it is in its current form, but the ethnic religion of the Jews certainly is.
The Goths are simply an offshoot of the Germanic tribes, who in turn descended from the Celts, and beyond that we go even further back into the realms of 'perhapsology' and 'probablyism' to our Indo-European roots, Aryan migrations from Asia and gods know what other manufactured theories the scientists have come up with. Half of those are taken from archaeology, the other half from backwards engineering languages.

The thing is, Germanic heathenry isn't as ancient as most people would like to believe. Yes, it's very old, but not as ancient as some would like you to believe. A few thousand years at best, is my guess. It probably evolved from the Celtic beliefs, taking with it the changing culture and environment. Hell, Odin probably wasn't even the chief god until close to the Viking age.